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| probably but if that is the case so would the dana 80. heck a dana 110 would double the gvw of the car... hahaha
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| thats a good theory junior but the only real problem i see with that lies in the similar issue 75 stated, theres several different versions of each dana axle. enough versions to make it seem that if they were just numbered in order there wouldnt be several d30's or d60's or whatever, they would each have their own number. lets do this, break it down into all the axles then compare each version of all the models IE (all 6 dana 30's to eachother) and see what is the cammon similarity between the 6. then we do the same with several other dana axles, just for example. say we compare 5 different dana axles and 5 different versions of each. lets say in each category we find the common denominator to be that they have the same size pumpkin, it is reasonable to expect the Dana model number is centered around the pumpkin size. then we just figure out how the number is referenced to the pumkin itself i know that porbably sounds confusing, but it made alot of sense to me. couldnt quite get it out and on here exactly like a wanted, ask if ya got questions about what i'm saying
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| i get it, makes sense to me, but sound like alot of R&D, and math!!hehe |
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| I am up for it.....Camino, do you know of a refernce websit that would list them all, with their features and specs, i can work on this in my spare time.
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| no idea. i think this will probably just take a lot of research y all of us. heck, if yall all want. start putting info up on here and i'll try to compile it into a spread sheet
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| Is this what you were talking about Camino? DANA 25/27 These Danas are indistinguishable in appearance. The military Model 25 has a thick, cast cover, while the 27 and civilian-model 25s have a thinner cover, will accept taller gears, and backed V-6s. DANA 28 The alloy-case Dana 28, with a 6 5/8-inch-diameter ring gear, came in Bronco IIs and Rangers with anything but the 4.0-liter engine. Although 4.0-liter trucks come with Dana 35s, most of the front suspension and/or drivetrain needs to be swapped to replace a 28. DANA 30The Model 30, with a 7 1/8-inch-diameter ring gear, was the standard front differential in some 1972-75 CJ-5s and all 1975-and-later CJ-5s and CJ-7s. It is still used in the front of Cherokees and Comanches, and will probably appear in the front of the Grand Cherokee. DANA 35This axle, with a 7.56-inch ring gear, is the fronted for 4.0-liter Ford Rangers and Explorers/Mazda Navajos. The 35C version is found in the rear of Cherokees and Comanches. DANA 41The 41, which has a ring gear size similar to the Dana 44, came in early CJ-2As. The spiders are the same as a 44's, but the carrier and gears aren't. It is almost universally swapped out in favor of a Dana 44. DANA 44 All domestic manufacturers have used Dana axles, and the 44, with its 8 1/2-inch ring gear, is likely to be a step up on anything smaller than a 1/2-ton. A narrowed 44 could be the hot ticket for vehicles smaller than a full-size sport-utility. It was standard under the front of pre-1976 Chevy Blazers and 1/2-tons, solid front-axled F-150s and Broncos, and Jeep J-10/J-20s and Grand Wagoneers. DANA 44-IFThe Ford-version Dana 44 Twin-Traction-Beam setup is similar to other 44s (ring gear diameters are identical), but there are no axle tubes and the "cover" is actually the suspension arm. It's standard in the front of any TTB-equipped Ford except the F-250HD, which uses a Dana 50. DANA 60 A Dana 60 looks deceptively similar to a Dana 44, but the 60's 9 3/4-inch ring gear diameter is a major factor in strength. It can be found in many 3/4-ton pickup and van rear ends. DANA 70Almost identical in appearance to a Dana 60, the Dana 70 is standard in heavy Dodge pickups and GM duallies. The large 10.54-inch ring gear diameter will tolerate much torque, and is suitable for diesel power and/or big tires. FORD 7.5-INCHThe small Ford rear end, which sometimes uses a fiberglass cover, is found in Bronco IIs and non-4.0-liter-powered Rangers. For bigger tires and/or engines, it's usually swapped for a Ford 9-inch. FORD 8.8-INCHThe 8.8-inch debuted in 1983 Broncos and F-150s, and is now found also in 4.0-liter Rangers and Explorers/Navajos. It is easily distinguished from a 9-inch by having a cover on the back. FORD 9-INCHThe venerable Ford 9-inch is both readily available and strong. Later models have bigger axle tubes and stronger housings. It was standard under 1966-88 F-150s and Broncos. It also came on many vans and the Lincoln Versailles (a popular axle for swapping because of the Lincoln version's disc brakes with parking brake). FORD 10.25-INCHFord's biggest axle comes with semi-floating shafts in 1983-and-newer F-250s, and as a full-floater in F-250HDs and F-350s. Applications are similar to the big GM 14-bolt and the Dana 70. GM CORPORATE 10-BOLTThe GM 10-bolt is named for the number of bolts on the cover; ring gear diameter is 7 1/2 inches. Variations of this can be found in the rear of GM S-trucks and some Isuzus, and in the front of S-trucks. GM CORPORATE 10-BOLTThis 10-bolt, with a larger 8 1/2-inch ring gear diameter, replaced the Dana 44 that was used in the front of some pre-1977 GMs. It can also be found in the back of 1983-91 1/2-tons and in the front of 1983-87 1/2-tons. GM CORPORATE 12-BOLTThe stronger 12-bolt, with an 8 7/8-inch-diameter ring gear, can be found in various 1964-82 GM 1/2- and 3/4-ton rearends. GM CORPORATE 14-BOLT The "small" GM 14-bolt has a 9 1/2-inch ring gear diameter. It was used in the rear of 1964-and-later GM pickups, and in the rear of 1984-91 3/4-ton Suburbans. GM CORPORATE 14-BOLTWith a 10 1/2-inch-diameter ring gear, the biggest 14-bolt GM rearend looks much like a Dana 70, and is but a few thousandths of an inch shorter in ring gear diameter. This axle is commonly used with big engines and/or overly large tires. It was used under 1973-87 3/4-tons. AMC MODEL 20Used in 1976-and-later Jeep CJs, the Model 20 rearend is both strong and weak. An 8 3/4-inch-diameter ring gear provides strength; weaknesses are the housing itself and the axle-to-hub retaining method. Converting to one-piece axles or full-floaters gives this axle better stamina. CHRYSLER 9 1/4-INCHMopar's 9 1/4-inch rearend can put a stop (notice the octagonal stop sign cover shape) to rearend woes on many lesser-equipped vehicles. Chrysler has used these since 1969, on 1/2- and 3/4-tons. TOYOTA 7.8-INCH Close to eight inches in ring gear diameter, this rearend has been used on 1979-and-later 4Runners and pickups. The four-cylinder turbo and 1988-and-later V-6 models have larger side carriers and the same ring size in front.
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| This may not have all the information, but it is a start. Starting with what they were originally in and a small semo-detailed comparison. I will continue to search for more and let y'all know.
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| Did anyone find what the numbers meant? I remember reading something in either JP or Four wheel and off road that explained the number bit, but cant remember what it said exactly. |
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No, that is what we are trying to figure out, but if you can find that, please post it here, it will help solve this......LOL.
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| thats definately a good start junior i'll read it all tomorrow. but its bed time for now, i've had a long day and gotta be at work early tomorrow
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