I need a carb. What kind should I get?

ErwinRommel · 07-10-2009, 01:18 PM

As mention in my other thread about my brake job, the mechanic told me that I need a new carb. I had the carb that is on it rebuilt like a week ago by another mechanic. I haven't had my truck in 5 weeks now due to them working on it or whatever.
The new mechanic I went to said I needed a new one. I went back and told him that the other mechanic rebuilt it for me. I went back today to check in on it and he asked me if I got a new carb. I told him no that I told him the carb was rebuilt. He said well it ain't a good carb. He had to carry those kind back. My carb that is on my truck is a Edelbrock performance series 4 barrel. I know Edelbrock wasn't the stock carb that is suppose to be on my 79 Ford but a Holley is the stock carb. The mechanic said he is going to check over on the carb again and see what is wrong.

If I have to get a new carb. I don't know what to get. I heard Hollys suck and that Edelbrock is best (vis versa). I'm kinda broke now. Only got $200 until payday and I have to get some ******** stuff for my tractor. Carbs are pretty expensive but I'm going to have to get one.

Any ideas what kind I should get?
-I saw a Holley Advenger Carb but it's pretty expensive.
-I would like to get a 4 barrel for more power.

hotrodpc · 07-10-2009, 01:51 PM

What is wrong with your Edelebrock that is on there. You need to find out what WHY he is saying it needs replaced and is no good. As far as what to get, Pro's and Con's both ways. Sky is the limit when it comes to options and parts for a Holley and they work well for a racing or street/strip vehicle, but IMO, they do not hold adjustment well. Maybe a bit of exaggeration, but it seems to me they have to be adjusted about every tank of gas. Edelbrock, which is a Carter, I think AFB, is a good carb in my opinion, but they do not have the fancy options that Holley have. Oh, Holleys like to leak alot too at the float bowls, and they also use a power valve. You are setting your timing, and one good back fire, you just blew out your power valve and will be going to the auto parts store. Also, a Holley sits for a few months, its likely to dry out and leak and/or not run when you get ready. To my suprise, I have had an Edelbrock, sit for 2 years, and worked just fine after I was ready to get the vehicle running again. Both are good and can perform well, Holley may even had a slight edge in performance, but as far as dependability, and not likeing to adjust carbs becasue I do not feel I am good at it or confident, I buy an Edelbrock, adjust it, have a buddy that is good with carbs check my math, and then weld the hood shut. Of course that is on a Chevrolet. You can't weld the hood shut on a Ford anyway. You just lube the hood hinges cuz they get used alot on a Ford. (LOL, OK, just some fun humor there with a touch of bash) I really find it hard to believe you need to replace that Edelbrock carb, but maybe this guy found something wrong, and also why the last guy did not adjust it. Maybe he tried to adjust it and it would not adjust. Mabye the last guy did a crappy rebuild. I'd get to the bottom of it though, becasue like you said, Carbs are not cheap now days. Another way to make a decision, ask your local buddies what they have laying around cheap. They may have a Holley 600 Vac Secondary laying around for cheap, if so, get a kit for it, soak and rebuild it. Just my opinion, if buying new, get a Edelbrock and be done with it.

leolkfrm · 07-10-2009, 01:56 PM

carbs are shot only to someone who does not know how to properly rebuild them! most of the important parts are replacable

hotrodpc · 07-10-2009, 02:03 PM

OH, and since this is your thread, and not hi******* someone else's thread, real quick, so it is Betty Sue the one you blew it with, and its Elly May that wants to sneak out? How did you blow it with Betty Sue? I am beggining to wonder, your player skills need some tuning. Thats OK though, something tells me, now that I am older, I am being paid back for my player days when I was your age. I had 3-4 girlfriends at a time back then. Sometimes, I even worked out, they all got a little sumthin sumthin in the same day. Man, was I feeling studly. Now, I can get laid in a morgue. LOL, not that I'd try, and not that I really couldn't, but you know there comes a time in your life where quality is more important the quantity. I can get the quantity now, but not the quality, so I'd just rather do without. Also playing the quantity game, can make you miss out on the quality, which is much more rare these days, and I prefer just to have that ONE quality, so I keep the quantity away. Back in the day, it was quantity and quality. Not so much anymore when you get old. Sounds like your well grounded with your own morals in that situation which is rare at your age, so you ought to be proud of that. I can assure you, it'll pay off someday and many more days to come throughout your life.
Oh Lord !!! We can not say jack ing either? Please censorship, lets be real. I was out ******* up the car and ...

hotrodpc · 07-10-2009, 02:06 PM

That is exactly what I was thinking Leo. Unless you have warrped body, it ought be able to be reapaired whether it needs metering rods or whatever the case may be. I find it hard to beleive the carb is bad. Maybe that last guy did not rebuild it right or used the wrong parts in the kit. I did a carb once, and it came with 2 gaskets. I used the wrong and that carb did not work. My buddy took it apart for me, and showed me the differance in the gaskets and got it working for me. Thats where I lost confidence in carbs. I can rebuild the mower carb, the tractor carb, the ATV carb and all those just fine, but just don't feel confident enough to do the 4bbl. Now a Holley, they are easy. Anyone can do those I think, even me, but not good at adjusting them out.

hotrodpc · 07-10-2009, 02:16 PM

I hate to keep adding replies to your thread, but I just a brain uh, a brain something cuz, I know for a fact if we can't say jack ing, I know we darn sure can't say F art. But I have also seen where people have used a Holley or Edelbrock carb on a factory manifold, and it does not work right becasue it can give you some internal vacuum leaks. Meaning, you can spray carb clean or start fluid and not find a vac leak at all, but actually there is one within the carb and intake plenum if your manifold is not a good fit for the carb. Maybe an adapter plate is needed. If that is case and it were me, rather than spend money on a new carb, I'd spend the money on an Edelbrock Performer or Performer RPM intake. Maybe thats what you have already, let us know what intake you have, if factory or not. It makes a diffreance.

ErwinRommel · 07-10-2009, 08:21 PM

Well I hear about these guys at the mud pits and you can tell which one uses a Holley because he just doesn't act right but with an Edelbrock, you know its good.

Oh, lets just say Betty Sue is just wanting to leave her town. She is lonely.

Elly May is wanting to explore the unknown of us men. Showed her my evidence and she liked it. Elly May though is a little ole gal though and I'm an older guy. If you know what I mean!

I try to keep straight. I tell you more about it in our PMs. It's ok if you keep on writing in this thread.

ErwinRommel · 07-13-2009, 01:24 PM

Went by the mechanics again today. Guy asked me if I brought a rebuilt kit! I TOLD HIM IT WAS ALREADY REBUILT! Another guy (who wasn't wearing a mechanic suit) was telling me he was trying to set it. The main mechanic said I just need to get a hammer and hit the thing. The other guy (not in the suit) said that the Edelbrock was to much for my engine or something...The main mechanic asked me if I paid the other guy at the mechanic shop for rebuilding my carb and I said yeah, he replied like "ohh" (in a bad way) and he said he thinks the bushings or something is messed up in it.

WTF!?!

So, I told them I will just get a Holley.

But IDK, that **** carb is rebuilt. I think their trying to rip me off or something.

gmctrucks · 07-13-2009, 01:44 PM

No have them take off the carb and take it back to the guy that rebuilt it for you I think there trying to pull a fast one on you. But again if you bought to much of a carb for your engine example double pumper with big jets it might give you some problems you should look up the part number call the auto parts store or speed shop and ask them what you have it on. Another option is buy a used one or good one on Ebay I have had good luck buying stuff on Ebay. Now days it's so hard to trust people there just out to rip one off also if you get another carb keep you old carb. Or take your truck to another shop or some tech that works on vehicles at his house work on it and DON'T give in so quick they might be taking you for a ******. Sorry but it's true maybe.
Good luck! GMC
Ford holley carb, great deals on eBay Motors, Business Industrial on eBay! Might find something here.

ErwinRommel · 07-13-2009, 01:46 PM

That's what I am thinking their doing and if they are. They messed with the wrong **** person. Period!

07-10-2009, 01:18 PM	#1
ErwinRommel Banned Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Southern Georgia Posts: 579	I need a carb. What kind should I get? As mention in my other thread about my brake job, the mechanic told me that I need a new carb. I had the carb that is on it rebuilt like a week ago by another mechanic. I haven't had my truck in 5 weeks now due to them working on it or whatever. The new mechanic I went to said I needed a new one. I went back and told him that the other mechanic rebuilt it for me. I went back today to check in on it and he asked me if I got a new carb. I told him no that I told him the carb was rebuilt. He said well it ain't a good carb. He had to carry those kind back. My carb that is on my truck is a Edelbrock performance series 4 barrel. I know Edelbrock wasn't the stock carb that is suppose to be on my 79 Ford but a Holley is the stock carb. The mechanic said he is going to check over on the carb again and see what is wrong. If I have to get a new carb. I don't know what to get. I heard Hollys suck and that Edelbrock is best (vis versa). I'm kinda broke now. Only got $200 until payday and I have to get some ******** stuff for my tractor. Carbs are pretty expensive but I'm going to have to get one. Any ideas what kind I should get? -I saw a Holley Advenger Carb but it's pretty expensive. -I would like to get a 4 barrel for more power.

07-10-2009, 01:51 PM	#2
hotrodpc Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: OKC, OK Posts: 3,149	What is wrong with your Edelebrock that is on there. You need to find out what WHY he is saying it needs replaced and is no good. As far as what to get, Pro's and Con's both ways. Sky is the limit when it comes to options and parts for a Holley and they work well for a racing or street/strip vehicle, but IMO, they do not hold adjustment well. Maybe a bit of exaggeration, but it seems to me they have to be adjusted about every tank of gas. Edelbrock, which is a Carter, I think AFB, is a good carb in my opinion, but they do not have the fancy options that Holley have. Oh, Holleys like to leak alot too at the float bowls, and they also use a power valve. You are setting your timing, and one good back fire, you just blew out your power valve and will be going to the auto parts store. Also, a Holley sits for a few months, its likely to dry out and leak and/or not run when you get ready. To my suprise, I have had an Edelbrock, sit for 2 years, and worked just fine after I was ready to get the vehicle running again. Both are good and can perform well, Holley may even had a slight edge in performance, but as far as dependability, and not likeing to adjust carbs becasue I do not feel I am good at it or confident, I buy an Edelbrock, adjust it, have a buddy that is good with carbs check my math, and then weld the hood shut. Of course that is on a Chevrolet. You can't weld the hood shut on a Ford anyway. You just lube the hood hinges cuz they get used alot on a Ford. (LOL, OK, just some fun humor there with a touch of bash) I really find it hard to believe you need to replace that Edelbrock carb, but maybe this guy found something wrong, and also why the last guy did not adjust it. Maybe he tried to adjust it and it would not adjust. Mabye the last guy did a crappy rebuild. I'd get to the bottom of it though, becasue like you said, Carbs are not cheap now days. Another way to make a decision, ask your local buddies what they have laying around cheap. They may have a Holley 600 Vac Secondary laying around for cheap, if so, get a kit for it, soak and rebuild it. Just my opinion, if buying new, get a Edelbrock and be done with it. __________________ *Winners NEVER Quit , Quitters NEVER Win !!!*

07-10-2009, 01:56 PM	#3
leolkfrm Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: N.Y. Posts: 4,300	carbs are shot only to someone who does not know how to properly rebuild them! most of the important parts are replacable __________________ 4 wheels move the body 2 wheels move the soul B.W.A.I

07-10-2009, 02:03 PM	#4
hotrodpc Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: OKC, OK Posts: 3,149	OH, and since this is your thread, and not hi***** someone else's thread, real quick, so it is Betty Sue the one you blew it with, and its Elly May that wants to sneak out? How did you blow it with Betty Sue? I am beggining to wonder, your player skills need some tuning. Thats OK though, something tells me, now that I am older, I am being paid back for my player days when I was your age. I had 3-4 girlfriends at a time back then. Sometimes, I even worked out, they all got a little sumthin sumthin in the same day. Man, was I feeling studly. Now, I can get laid in a morgue. LOL, not that I'd try, and not that I really couldn't, but you know there comes a time in your life where quality is more important the quantity. I can get the quantity now, but not the quality, so I'd just rather do without. Also playing the quantity game, can make you miss out on the quality, which is much more rare these days, and I prefer just to have that ONE quality, so I keep the quantity away. Back in the day, it was quantity and quality. Not so much anymore when you get old. Sounds like your well grounded with your own morals in that situation which is rare at your age, so you ought to be proud of that. I can assure you, it'll pay off someday and many more days to come throughout your life. Oh Lord !!! We can not say jack ing either? Please censorship, lets be real. I was out *** up the car and ... __________________ Winners NEVER Quit , Quitters NEVER Win !!!**

07-10-2009, 02:06 PM	#5
hotrodpc Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: OKC, OK Posts: 3,149	That is exactly what I was thinking Leo. Unless you have warrped body, it ought be able to be reapaired whether it needs metering rods or whatever the case may be. I find it hard to beleive the carb is bad. Maybe that last guy did not rebuild it right or used the wrong parts in the kit. I did a carb once, and it came with 2 gaskets. I used the wrong and that carb did not work. My buddy took it apart for me, and showed me the differance in the gaskets and got it working for me. Thats where I lost confidence in carbs. I can rebuild the mower carb, the tractor carb, the ATV carb and all those just fine, but just don't feel confident enough to do the 4bbl. Now a Holley, they are easy. Anyone can do those I think, even me, but not good at adjusting them out. __________________ *Winners NEVER Quit , Quitters NEVER Win !!!*

07-10-2009, 02:16 PM	#6
hotrodpc Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: OKC, OK Posts: 3,149	I hate to keep adding replies to your thread, but I just a brain uh, a brain something cuz, I know for a fact if we can't say jack ing, I know we darn sure can't say F art. But I have also seen where people have used a Holley or Edelbrock carb on a factory manifold, and it does not work right becasue it can give you some internal vacuum leaks. Meaning, you can spray carb clean or start fluid and not find a vac leak at all, but actually there is one within the carb and intake plenum if your manifold is not a good fit for the carb. Maybe an adapter plate is needed. If that is case and it were me, rather than spend money on a new carb, I'd spend the money on an Edelbrock Performer or Performer RPM intake. Maybe thats what you have already, let us know what intake you have, if factory or not. It makes a diffreance. __________________ *Winners NEVER Quit , Quitters NEVER Win !!!*

07-10-2009, 08:21 PM	#7
ErwinRommel Banned Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Southern Georgia Posts: 579	Well I hear about these guys at the mud pits and you can tell which one uses a Holley because he just doesn't act right but with an Edelbrock, you know its good. Oh, lets just say Betty Sue is just wanting to leave her town. She is lonely. Elly May is wanting to explore the unknown of us men. Showed her my evidence and she liked it. Elly May though is a little ole gal though and I'm an older guy. If you know what I mean! I try to keep straight. I tell you more about it in our PMs. It's ok if you keep on writing in this thread.

07-13-2009, 01:24 PM	#8
ErwinRommel Banned Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Southern Georgia Posts: 579	Went by the mechanics again today. Guy asked me if I brought a rebuilt kit! I TOLD HIM IT WAS ALREADY REBUILT! Another guy (who wasn't wearing a mechanic suit) was telling me he was trying to set it. The main mechanic said I just need to get a hammer and hit the thing. The other guy (not in the suit) said that the Edelbrock was to much for my engine or something...The main mechanic asked me if I paid the other guy at the mechanic shop for rebuilding my carb and I said yeah, he replied like "ohh" (in a bad way) and he said he thinks the bushings or something is messed up in it. WTF!?! So, I told them I will just get a Holley. But IDK, that **** carb is rebuilt. I think their trying to rip me off or something.

07-13-2009, 01:44 PM	#9
gmctrucks Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Houston,Texas Posts: 4,035	No have them take off the carb and take it back to the guy that rebuilt it for you I think there trying to pull a fast one on you. But again if you bought to much of a carb for your engine example double pumper with big jets it might give you some problems you should look up the part number call the auto parts store or speed shop and ask them what you have it on. Another option is buy a used one or good one on Ebay I have had good luck buying stuff on Ebay. Now days it's so hard to trust people there just out to rip one off also if you get another carb keep you old carb. Or take your truck to another shop or some tech that works on vehicles at his house work on it and DON'T give in so quick they might be taking you for a ******. Sorry but it's true maybe. Good luck! GMC Ford holley carb, great deals on eBay Motors, Business Industrial on eBay! Might find something here.

07-13-2009, 01:46 PM	#10
ErwinRommel Banned Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Southern Georgia Posts: 579	That's what I am thinking their doing and if they are. They messed with the wrong **** person. Period!

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