Still need help part 2

beandipkilla · 12-09-2008, 01:43 PM

i just found another problem their is a crack on the frame i called around and was told they weld the frame and put some steel plates around it to make sure it works good i was cuoted 50 to 75 dlls to fix great price right here is where the problem comes into play its on the left hand side of the truck where the steering box is mounted on i will need to take it apart anybody now how truck is 1976 chevy c-10 pick up.... again thank in advance

bradrhale · 12-09-2008, 01:45 PM

Welding and fabbing

might want to read through this thread before having someone weld up your frame. that looks like your pride and joy and hate to see something go wrong with it.

leolkfrm · 12-09-2008, 01:55 PM

Brad is right did you get the quote from a reliable frame shop? Also do you know why it cracked, type of driving accident? steering box side is important!

beandipkilla · 12-09-2008, 02:26 PM

i am guessing the guy before me to wheelin one to many times and broke then sold it me.

75K30 · 12-09-2008, 02:28 PM

Chevy driver side steering boxes break through the frame all of the time. heak I believe there are more broken ones now than there are good ones. harder to find one that is not broken than one that is broken. Just the nature of the beast and actually a poor design of the frame. See the Saginaw box has a large bulger where the sector shaft is housed and the box cant rest flat against the flat frame, so the manufacturer created some clearance at the frame to accomodate this. Unfortunately, this frame was weak here, and through numerous cycles of the steering, the frame fatigues and eventually breaks.
The military CCUV vehicles used a brace on the inside of the frame to help control this and while it helps, it still busts the frame.
Many companies offer a patch type panel and these work rather well. I always weld the original break and repair all of the cracks, then I add the patch panel and weld this directly to the frame as well. This new panel spreads the load of the box into a larger area and helps this weak area survive.
If you use a bolt in panel, make sure that you verify that the box and all associated bolts are tight. If they become loose, the frame and patched area will fail again.

This fix is a simple procedure, but I get a little more than 75 bucks to repair this area. Mine dont come back broken though. If you can get this type of work done for this amount, then you have found a bargain.

Much luck, dont worry too much about the breaks, they are common, just get it fixed and you will be amazed at how well your truck steers after the upgrade.
You have undoubtedly been driving like this for a long time, and attributed the poor performing steering to the age of the truck.
It can be better than new in no time.

gmctrucks · 12-09-2008, 04:19 PM

My buddy did the same thing that 75K30 did and it has latest.

beandipkilla · 12-09-2008, 06:31 PM

where can i get this done. what kind of shop and where do i get the pieces? thanks....

leolkfrm · 12-09-2008, 07:30 PM

I would check the local frame shop or fabrication shop that works on frames

see error · 12-09-2008, 08:07 PM

OffRoad Design weld on frame repair kit LOOK AT THIS ONE FIRST THEN CHECK OUT THIS ONE ORD Chevy GM Steering Box Brace and Bolt-in Frame Repair GOOD LUCK

12-09-2008, 01:43 PM	#1
beandipkilla Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: tigard oregon Posts: 5	Still need help part 2 i just found another problem their is a crack on the frame i called around and was told they weld the frame and put some steel plates around it to make sure it works good i was cuoted 50 to 75 dlls to fix great price right here is where the problem comes into play its on the left hand side of the truck where the steering box is mounted on i will need to take it apart anybody now how truck is 1976 chevy c-10 pick up.... again thank in advance

12-09-2008, 01:55 PM	#3
leolkfrm Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: N.Y. Posts: 4,300	Brad is right did you get the quote from a reliable frame shop? Also do you know why it cracked, type of driving accident? steering box side is important! __________________ 4 wheels move the body 2 wheels move the soul B.W.A.I

12-09-2008, 07:30 PM	#8
leolkfrm Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: N.Y. Posts: 4,300	I would check the local frame shop or fabrication shop that works on frames __________________ 4 wheels move the body 2 wheels move the soul B.W.A.I

12-09-2008, 08:07 PM	#9
see error Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: tallahassee, fl Posts: 169	OffRoad Design weld on frame repair kit LOOK AT THIS ONE FIRST THEN CHECK OUT THIS ONE ORD Chevy GM Steering Box Brace and Bolt-in Frame Repair GOOD LUCK __________________ 2004 gmc 1500 cc 4x4

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12-09-2008, 01:45 PM	#2
bradrhale Senior Moderator Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 8,025	Welding and fabbing might want to read through this thread before having someone weld up your frame. that looks like your pride and joy and hate to see something go wrong with it.

12-09-2008, 02:26 PM	#4
beandipkilla Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: tigard oregon Posts: 5	i am guessing the guy before me to wheelin one to many times and broke then sold it me.

12-09-2008, 02:28 PM	#5
75K30 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 2,992	Chevy driver side steering boxes break through the frame all of the time. heak I believe there are more broken ones now than there are good ones. harder to find one that is not broken than one that is broken. Just the nature of the beast and actually a poor design of the frame. See the Saginaw box has a large bulger where the sector shaft is housed and the box cant rest flat against the flat frame, so the manufacturer created some clearance at the frame to accomodate this. Unfortunately, this frame was weak here, and through numerous cycles of the steering, the frame fatigues and eventually breaks. The military CCUV vehicles used a brace on the inside of the frame to help control this and while it helps, it still busts the frame. Many companies offer a patch type panel and these work rather well. I always weld the original break and repair all of the cracks, then I add the patch panel and weld this directly to the frame as well. This new panel spreads the load of the box into a larger area and helps this weak area survive. If you use a bolt in panel, make sure that you verify that the box and all associated bolts are tight. If they become loose, the frame and patched area will fail again. This fix is a simple procedure, but I get a little more than 75 bucks to repair this area. Mine dont come back broken though. If you can get this type of work done for this amount, then you have found a bargain. Much luck, dont worry too much about the breaks, they are common, just get it fixed and you will be amazed at how well your truck steers after the upgrade. You have undoubtedly been driving like this for a long time, and attributed the poor performing steering to the age of the truck. It can be better than new in no time.

12-09-2008, 04:19 PM	#6
gmctrucks Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Houston,Texas Posts: 4,033	My buddy did the same thing that 75K30 did and it has latest.

12-09-2008, 06:31 PM	#7
beandipkilla Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: tigard oregon Posts: 5	where can i get this done. what kind of shop and where do i get the pieces? thanks....

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