******** bed bolts

1500cheyenne96 · 10-12-2009, 01:44 PM

OK guys i'm trying to pull the bed off my truck got 2 cross members rotting out i got the 4 outer bolts off just fine but i can't seem to get the middle two off no matter what i try i've soked em down with penetrating oil tried the working them back and for with the impact and using a breaker bar with a pipe on the end i'm just about to the point of blowing em of with the torch but it'll be a pain to replace them. just wondering if any one has some tricks of the trade to help. thanks in advance.

mfklein24 · 10-12-2009, 02:31 PM

nope. sry. I had this problem on my s10, real bad. I just pulled the bed off with the loader and ditched it. Honestly its way cheaper and less of a head ache to just buy a rust free bed for around 500, than to dick around fixing the rotted out one. Just my experience.

1500cheyenne96 · 10-12-2009, 02:43 PM

Oh sry it's not the bed cross members my mistake didn't write that down its the cross member on the frame where the spare tire would go the rest of the frame is rust free and solid the bed is in good shape little rust I put a new one on when i bought the truck 5 yrs ago a friend of mine had the truck and a tree limb fell on the original bed crushing the rails down he didn't want to mess with it so i traded him me 93 i had at the time and he bought the bed

Crmzendrgone · 10-12-2009, 08:37 PM

Do you have a "HOT WRENCH"(Torch) that might work. Maybe

gmctrucks · 10-13-2009, 02:28 AM

Penetrating oil test.
Penetrating Oils Compared

Machinist's Workshop magazine actually tested penetrants for break out torque on rusted nuts. Significant results!

*They arranged a subjective test of all the popular penetrants with the control being the torque required to remove the nut from a "scientifically rusted" environment.*

*Penetrating oil ..... Average load*

None ..................... 516 pounds
WD-40 ............. 238 pounds
PB Blaster ............. 214 pounds
Liquid Wrench .. 127 pounds
Kano Kroil ............ 106 pounds
ATF-Acetone mix....53 pounds

*The ATF-Acetone mix was a "home brew" mix of 50 - 50 automatic transmission fluid and acetone*
*Note the "home brew" was better than any commercial product in this one particular test. A local machinist group mixed up a batch and all now use it with equally good results. Note also that "Liquid Wrench" is about as good as "Kroil" for about 20% of the price.*

leolkfrm · 10-13-2009, 05:54 AM

wow nice test, i never liked wd40, kroil, 50-5 seem to work much better.....but the liquid wrench in the orange and green tanks always get them off

1500cheyenne96 · 10-13-2009, 05:58 PM

wow that really is a great test i'll try th e home brew tomorrow and let you all know thanks for the input

1500cheyenne96 · 10-14-2009, 10:37 AM

OK so i mixed up a bit of the brew soaked the bolts down and waited 15 mins put the impact on em and they turned right out thanks again for the help

Crmzendrgone · 10-14-2009, 10:45 AM

Cool glad that they came out for you. I think I will have to use that home brew next time I have some rusty bolts. Again thanks for the response with the home test.

1500cheyenne96 · 10-14-2009, 02:15 PM

hey no problem it's good to info to know when you got stubborn bolts

10-12-2009, 01:44 PM	#1
1500cheyenne96 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: MIchigan Posts: 849	******** bed bolts OK guys i'm trying to pull the bed off my truck got 2 cross members rotting out i got the 4 outer bolts off just fine but i can't seem to get the middle two off no matter what i try i've soked em down with penetrating oil tried the working them back and for with the impact and using a breaker bar with a pipe on the end i'm just about to the point of blowing em of with the torch but it'll be a pain to replace them. just wondering if any one has some tricks of the trade to help. thanks in advance.

10-12-2009, 08:37 PM	#4
Crmzendrgone Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Arizona Posts: 3,167	Do you have a "HOT WRENCH"(Torch) that might work. Maybe __________________

10-13-2009, 05:54 AM	#6
leolkfrm Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: N.Y. Posts: 4,926	wow nice test, i never liked wd40, kroil, 50-5 seem to work much better.....but the liquid wrench in the orange and green tanks always get them off __________________ 4 wheels move the body 2 wheels move the soul B.W.A.I

10-14-2009, 10:45 AM	#9
Crmzendrgone Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Arizona Posts: 3,167	Cool glad that they came out for you. I think I will have to use that home brew next time I have some rusty bolts. Again thanks for the response with the home test. __________________

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10-12-2009, 02:31 PM	#2
mfklein24 Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Michigan Posts: 6	nope. sry. I had this problem on my s10, real bad. I just pulled the bed off with the loader and ditched it. Honestly its way cheaper and less of a head ache to just buy a rust free bed for around 500, than to dick around fixing the rotted out one. Just my experience.

10-12-2009, 02:43 PM	#3
1500cheyenne96 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: MIchigan Posts: 849	Oh sry it's not the bed cross members my mistake didn't write that down its the cross member on the frame where the spare tire would go the rest of the frame is rust free and solid the bed is in good shape little rust I put a new one on when i bought the truck 5 yrs ago a friend of mine had the truck and a tree limb fell on the original bed crushing the rails down he didn't want to mess with it so i traded him me 93 i had at the time and he bought the bed

10-13-2009, 02:28 AM	#5
gmctrucks Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Houston,Texas Posts: 4,645	Penetrating oil test. Penetrating Oils Compared Machinist's Workshop magazine actually tested penetrants for break out torque on rusted nuts. Significant results! They arranged a subjective test of all the popular penetrants with the control being the torque required to remove the nut from a "scientifically rusted" environment. Penetrating oil ..... Average load None ..................... 516 pounds WD-40 ............. 238 pounds PB Blaster ............. 214 pounds Liquid Wrench .. 127 pounds Kano Kroil ............ 106 pounds ATF-Acetone mix....53 pounds The ATF-Acetone mix was a "home brew" mix of 50 - 50 automatic transmission fluid and acetone Note the "home brew" was better than any commercial product in this one particular test. A local machinist group mixed up a batch and all now use it with equally good results. Note also that "Liquid Wrench" is about as good as "Kroil" for about 20% of the price.

10-13-2009, 05:58 PM	#7
1500cheyenne96 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: MIchigan Posts: 849	wow that really is a great test i'll try th e home brew tomorrow and let you all know thanks for the input

10-14-2009, 10:37 AM	#8
1500cheyenne96 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: MIchigan Posts: 849	OK so i mixed up a bit of the brew soaked the bolts down and waited 15 mins put the impact on em and they turned right out thanks again for the help

10-14-2009, 02:15 PM	#10
1500cheyenne96 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: MIchigan Posts: 849	hey no problem it's good to info to know when you got stubborn bolts

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