4x4 help! - Page 4

Mudman88 · 11-10-2009, 11:29 PM

ok...so tell me more!hahaha. Im stuck at work right nowand cant get this issue out of my mind.

Rago · 11-11-2009, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Mudman88

well..I looked at the actuator and the shift cable wasnt even hooked into it, so i put it all back together according to my book and it still isnt going into 4x4.THe actuator seems to be good, air goes in and air goes out, no leaks..I dont know what to do now. Its my girlfriends truck and I really dont want her driving it in the thick snow that they are calling for this winter in 2wd..What should I do guys?

Just gonna say you checked most everything I would have. I've owned a couple of these & two things go out:

1. The transfer case actuator (if it's clicking, it should be working)

2. The vacuum actuator that engages the axles. (This is where I would focus my attention)

I see you have already been through most of the troubleshooting, but I noticed from the quoted post that you didn't mention if the rod was moving. You should be able to see it move in & out when it engages the axles. On my old 83, everything seemed to be working, but the axles weren't engaging because of this problem. As a temporary fix to get me out of the trails I was on, I grabbed a pair of Visegrips, pulled the rod out, & locked it down. This engaged the 4wd, but I wouldn't recommend it as a permanent fix (unless you are a fix it with duct tape kind of guy, lol). The problem is that air can come in & out of the actuator & it still might need replaced. There is a rubber piece inside the actuator that acts like a suction cup & if there is even the slightest tear, goodbye 4wd. I hope this fixes your problem, good luck.

hotrodpc · 11-11-2009, 08:48 PM

Nice to see you back around RAGO, Hope all is well !!! Hopefully your suggestion works for this guy, he's been trying hard to get it fixed, and I have not experienced this problem yet.

PAPA BEAR · 11-12-2009, 02:21 AM

some times i have seen the clips loose thier strenth and the cable just slides out and dosent engage the diff if this is the case simply bend the clip untill it holds the cable in place

hotrodpc · 11-12-2009, 02:28 AM

Mudman ought to be happy. He's getting people out of the woodwork on this one. I have not seen P Bear around in awhile either.

Crmzendrgone · 11-12-2009, 07:47 AM

I have never seen Papa bear so glad to know some others are around to help out. I thought I was steering Mud in the wrong direction.

Mudman88 · 11-12-2009, 09:56 AM

I really do appreciate all the help from everybody hear.Honestly!The locking spring on the actuator was gone, and the only way u can get a NEW one is to buy the whole new actuator. SO, i went and bought 2 clips like the ones you put on your hitch pin, and put them both in the springs place.THere is NOW WAY that shift cable is pulling out of those.
I dont know what rod I should be checking to see if it is going in and out?

Crmzendrgone · 11-12-2009, 10:13 AM

Well the only thing I can think of is the rod in the tube that moves the fork. pictured as #10 in that diagram.

Rago · 11-12-2009, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Mudman88

I dont know what rod I should be checking to see if it is going in and out?

I found a great pic on the web & circled the rod I was talking about:

Mudman88 · 11-12-2009, 05:08 PM

ok now i know what you are talkina bout...Thanks for that picture. When i took it all apart to look at the actuator that rod wasnt even hooked in, because that spring was missing. So, pretty much all i have to do is have someone press the button and see if that is moving. What if it isnt?and what if it is?

11-11-2009, 08:48 PM	#33
hotrodpc Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: OK Posts: 6,935	Nice to see you back around RAGO, Hope all is well !!! Hopefully your suggestion works for this guy, he's been trying hard to get it fixed, and I have not experienced this problem yet. __________________ *Winners NEVER Quit , Quitters NEVER Win !!!*

11-12-2009, 02:28 AM	#35
hotrodpc Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: OK Posts: 6,935	Mudman ought to be happy. He's getting people out of the woodwork on this one. I have not seen P Bear around in awhile either. __________________ *Winners NEVER Quit , Quitters NEVER Win !!!*

11-12-2009, 07:47 AM	#36
Crmzendrgone Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Arizona Posts: 3,167	I have never seen Papa bear so glad to know some others are around to help out. I thought I was steering Mud in the wrong direction. __________________

11-12-2009, 10:13 AM	#38
Crmzendrgone Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Arizona Posts: 3,167	Well the only thing I can think of is the rod in the tube that moves the fork. pictured as #10 in that diagram. __________________

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11-10-2009, 11:29 PM	#31
Mudman88 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 288	ok...so tell me more!hahaha. Im stuck at work right nowand cant get this issue out of my mind.

11-12-2009, 02:21 AM	#34
PAPA BEAR Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: virginia Posts: 134	some times i have seen the clips loose thier strenth and the cable just slides out and dosent engage the diff if this is the case simply bend the clip untill it holds the cable in place

11-12-2009, 09:56 AM	#37
Mudman88 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 288	I really do appreciate all the help from everybody hear.Honestly!The locking spring on the actuator was gone, and the only way u can get a NEW one is to buy the whole new actuator. SO, i went and bought 2 clips like the ones you put on your hitch pin, and put them both in the springs place.THere is NOW WAY that shift cable is pulling out of those. I dont know what rod I should be checking to see if it is going in and out?

11-12-2009, 05:08 PM	#40
Mudman88 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 288	ok now i know what you are talkina bout...Thanks for that picture. When i took it all apart to look at the actuator that rod wasnt even hooked in, because that spring was missing. So, pretty much all i have to do is have someone press the button and see if that is moving. What if it isnt?and what if it is?