89 chevy suburban oil pan help

The Bondo King! · 09-10-2006, 03:22 PM

Ok, my suburan is leaking oil from what i thought was the rear oil seal. i replaced it, and its still leaking... i figured it was just the oil pan gasket. so know im trying to get my pan back on and im cussing and screaming at the damned thing because i cant get it back on. i cant get it to fit right, and when i do get it in there, i take the gasket off the bolt holes on accident. is there an eaiser way to do this? i cant put any sealent on the gasket to fit it either because the dipstick slot wont allow me to to keep the gasket in tact with the pan. also, in my struggle, i put a good amount of oil on the gasket, i was wondering if that hurts my efforts to stop the leak.

bradrhale · 09-10-2006, 09:13 PM

if you put oil on that gasket with that permatex, you have just shot yourself in the foot. oil will not let anything adhere to anything it touches. thats why they put it in the engine. take some brake parts cleaner and spray on a blue paper towel and wipe down both surfaces until clean. put the permatex on the block and put the gasket up on that first. it will stay up there and wont move much unless you get froggy with it. why wont it go back up?? are you hitting something next to the block?? it should be a very simple install.

The Bondo King! · 09-10-2006, 11:42 PM

well, i just cleaned off all surfaces with rubbing alcohol and used silicone atv sealent to keep the gasket on there. im going to try to attach the pan tomorrow and im hoping that sealer sticks... any problems with the chemicals i used above?

bradrhale · 09-11-2006, 06:01 AM

cant say i ever used rubbing alcohol before, at least for that application. the only alcohol that i would use goes in the gas tank. just remember when you put everything back together, DO NOT OVER TIGHTEN THE PAN BOLTS. i have seen that way too many times and youll be doing this all over again and might be extracting broken bolts as well.

mudseeker · 09-11-2006, 06:08 AM

yup, done that before. those little pan bolts snap pretty easily.

bradrhale · 09-11-2006, 08:17 AM

lot of extra work and time to get them little futher muckers out.

Larry O'Daniel · 09-12-2006, 10:58 AM

Bradrhale: If he used atv sealent to hold the gasket in place now and waits until tomorrow to put the pan on won't the sealent have cured to the point that when he does put the pan on the sealent won't "squeeze" into the little spots and seal between the gasket and block? Just a thought when I read this.

The Bondo King! · 09-12-2006, 02:20 PM

i think i found a way around it. i put atv up there, and put bolts on right where the sealent was applied, so i think itll be cool.

bradrhale · 09-13-2006, 10:07 AM

larry, i didnt mean for anything to comeout about waiting. put the atv up on the block first, then put everything together. didnt mean for it to be taken the way you took it.

Larry O'Daniel · 09-13-2006, 11:12 AM

My mistake, Sorry about that.

And I have broken many bolts trying to get them out after someone tightened them too much.

09-10-2006, 03:22 PM	#1
The Bondo King! Full Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: South Lake Tahoe, CA Posts: 10	89 chevy suburban oil pan help Ok, my suburan is leaking oil from what i thought was the rear oil seal. i replaced it, and its still leaking... i figured it was just the oil pan gasket. so know im trying to get my pan back on and im cussing and screaming at the damned thing because i cant get it back on. i cant get it to fit right, and when i do get it in there, i take the gasket off the bolt holes on accident. is there an eaiser way to do this? i cant put any sealent on the gasket to fit it either because the dipstick slot wont allow me to to keep the gasket in tact with the pan. also, in my struggle, i put a good amount of oil on the gasket, i was wondering if that hurts my efforts to stop the leak.

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09-10-2006, 09:13 PM	#2
bradrhale Senior Moderator Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 9,558	if you put oil on that gasket with that permatex, you have just shot yourself in the foot. oil will not let anything adhere to anything it touches. thats why they put it in the engine. take some brake parts cleaner and spray on a blue paper towel and wipe down both surfaces until clean. put the permatex on the block and put the gasket up on that first. it will stay up there and wont move much unless you get froggy with it. why wont it go back up?? are you hitting something next to the block?? it should be a very simple install.

09-10-2006, 11:42 PM	#3
The Bondo King! Full Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: South Lake Tahoe, CA Posts: 10	well, i just cleaned off all surfaces with rubbing alcohol and used silicone atv sealent to keep the gasket on there. im going to try to attach the pan tomorrow and im hoping that sealer sticks... any problems with the chemicals i used above?

09-11-2006, 06:01 AM	#4
bradrhale Senior Moderator Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 9,558	cant say i ever used rubbing alcohol before, at least for that application. the only alcohol that i would use goes in the gas tank. just remember when you put everything back together, DO NOT OVER TIGHTEN THE PAN BOLTS. i have seen that way too many times and youll be doing this all over again and might be extracting broken bolts as well.

09-11-2006, 06:08 AM	#5
mudseeker Senior Moderator Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: michigan Posts: 7,155	yup, done that before. those little pan bolts snap pretty easily.

09-11-2006, 08:17 AM	#6
bradrhale Senior Moderator Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 9,558	lot of extra work and time to get them little futher muckers out.

09-12-2006, 10:58 AM	#7
Larry O'Daniel Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Tulsa, stationed at Ft. Sill, OK Posts: 90	Bradrhale: If he used atv sealent to hold the gasket in place now and waits until tomorrow to put the pan on won't the sealent have cured to the point that when he does put the pan on the sealent won't "squeeze" into the little spots and seal between the gasket and block? Just a thought when I read this.

09-12-2006, 02:20 PM	#8
The Bondo King! Full Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: South Lake Tahoe, CA Posts: 10	i think i found a way around it. i put atv up there, and put bolts on right where the sealent was applied, so i think itll be cool.

09-13-2006, 10:07 AM	#9
bradrhale Senior Moderator Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 9,558	larry, i didnt mean for anything to comeout about waiting. put the atv up on the block first, then put everything together. didnt mean for it to be taken the way you took it.

09-13-2006, 11:12 AM	#10
Larry O'Daniel Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Tulsa, stationed at Ft. Sill, OK Posts: 90	My mistake, Sorry about that. And I have broken many bolts trying to get them out after someone tightened them too much.