Tires

mwood · 10-16-2009, 05:35 PM

A guy i know is sellin a set of tires hes had but hasnt used em.. they have been in his garage on a shelf for about 4 years. i went looked at em they look perfectly fine, are they still good even though they have been shelved for 4 years? they are firestone firehawk 500. 265/70/R16s i think..

batty1214 · 10-16-2009, 09:30 PM

Look at the inside of the tire..... If the casing is in good condition, and it looks free of any cracks, splits, or anything that you would consider questionable, they will hold air....... Look in between the lugs, at the base of the tread....... If it has weather cracking or dry rot cracking, then the tires have a high possibility of throwing tread, or splitting when aired up and run down the highway for very far...... When it comes to tires, If it looks questionable or unsafe, then its just not worth it..... that is the motto of Goodyear, Bridgestone, and Micheline when they teach trainings to any tire installer..... anything from the 12-6 tires that are steer tires on tiny forklifts, to the giant earth mover tires that are 65/65-57............ they all go by the rule, if it looks questionable, is it worth a life?
I just got done with training on all the tire ****, and will be gone again to goodyear plant in Topeka Kansas learing how to inspect their earthmover tires for signs of catastrophic failure that can happen.... whoo hoo.... 4 days of it......

chengny · 10-16-2009, 10:28 PM

First determine the actual DOM. Not many consumers are aware of this:

Tire Age/Date of Manufacture

Unlike the other, more-prominent specs, the Department of Transportation's Tire Identification Number is of interest to tire owners and buyers alike — mainly because it includes the week and year of the tire's manufacture, and thus its age. Tire age, not just wear, has become a safety concern.

Found close to the rim, the TIN consists of a series of 10-12 letters and numbers that — like a vehicle identification number — are of little use to a consumer. But the last four numbers represent the birth week and year of any tire built since 2000.

DOT H25R YC24 4305

The tire above was manufactured in the 43rd week of 2005. Tires built before 2000 used a three-digit code, where the year was reduced to a single digit. If the tire above were from 1997 rather than 2005, its code would be 437. Would 437 also be the code for a tire made in the 43rd week of 1987? Unfortunately, yes, it would — and that's why four digits are now used.

Recently, the effect of tire age on safety has become a concern. Unfortunately, climates and how well a tire is cared for affect its aging, so there are no universal rules. Most tires wear out before age becomes an issue, but some automakers — mainly German ones — recommend replacement after six years in service, regardless of wear. Most automakers agree that 10 years is the maximum safe lifespan for any tire, including a spare that has never been used. When buying new tires, it's wise to check their birth date. Treat them like milk: Your family might finish a gallon before its expiration date, but then again, it might not. Why take the chance? For the same money, you should get the freshest milk — or tires — you can find. You might wear the tires out long before they're due for retirement, but why buy a set whose clock is already ticking?

It is always USCG/ABS policy to condemn any rubber expansion joint that exceeded 10 years old. This included inboard or outboard of any sea valve (i.e. able or unable to be isolated from the sea) and was regardless of whether they were in storage in actual use. It was a good policy - probably saved many lives over the years.

leolkfrm · 10-17-2009, 07:00 AM

if you buy them for $200 or less and they look good by the above postings, why not!

bradrhale · 10-17-2009, 07:35 AM

i had a set of the same exact tires. loved them and would continue to buy them if i had something they would fit on. many many miles out of them buggers. bought mine brand new for 200 bucks. but that was 6 or 7 years ago. the dollar aint near what it was worth back then.

scavanger · 10-17-2009, 07:37 AM

Light especially sunlight is a tire's biggest enemy. The darker the storage area the better for the tires.The brand-quality of the tire is also important. I just bought a set of Micheline tires for an old work car. They were put on in 2002 run for a very short time and the car sat in a garage after that. They look like new and the rubber is soft, not a crack or damage anywhere. I bought this set of tires for $80.
I would think that high end Goodyear tires would have high quality. Like others have said , if you wear them fast enough and price is right go for it.

Scav.

gmctrucks · 10-17-2009, 01:48 PM

Check to see when there were actually made meaning what year some companies were unloading tires because of there age real cheap.

mwood · 10-19-2009, 10:11 AM

LOL dang fools i just got tire 411ed.. I will check the date on them bad boys fo sho, and probably every time i buy tires just for fun. and maybe use it as a pick up line! Any way yea the rubber still feels soft no cracks pleanty of tread stored in a garage and being in alaska its dark most of the year any way. So i think ill scoop em up, only a 100 bucks for em ill pick em up toady. thanks for the help!

10-16-2009, 05:35 PM	#1
mwood Full Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 31	Tires A guy i know is sellin a set of tires hes had but hasnt used em.. they have been in his garage on a shelf for about 4 years. i went looked at em they look perfectly fine, are they still good even though they have been shelved for 4 years? they are firestone firehawk 500. 265/70/R16s i think..

10-16-2009, 10:28 PM	#3
chengny Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: So. NH Posts: 197	First determine the actual DOM. Not many consumers are aware of this: Tire Age/Date of Manufacture Unlike the other, more-prominent specs, the Department of Transportation's Tire Identification Number is of interest to tire owners and buyers alike — mainly because it includes the week and year of the tire's manufacture, and thus its age. Tire age, not just wear, has become a safety concern. Found close to the rim, the TIN consists of a series of 10-12 letters and numbers that — like a vehicle identification number — are of little use to a consumer. But the last four numbers represent the birth week and year of any tire built since 2000. DOT H25R YC24 4305 The tire above was manufactured in the 43rd week of 2005. Tires built before 2000 used a three-digit code, where the year was reduced to a single digit. If the tire above were from 1997 rather than 2005, its code would be 437. Would 437 also be the code for a tire made in the 43rd week of 1987? Unfortunately, yes, it would — and that's why four digits are now used. Recently, the effect of tire age on safety has become a concern. Unfortunately, climates and how well a tire is cared for affect its aging, so there are no universal rules. Most tires wear out before age becomes an issue, but some automakers — mainly German ones — recommend replacement after six years in service, regardless of wear. Most automakers agree that 10 years is the maximum safe lifespan for any tire, including a spare that has never been used. When buying new tires, it's wise to check their birth date. Treat them like milk: Your family might finish a gallon before its expiration date, but then again, it might not. Why take the chance? For the same money, you should get the freshest milk — or tires — you can find. You might wear the tires out long before they're due for retirement, but why buy a set whose clock is already ticking? It is always USCG/ABS policy to condemn any rubber expansion joint that exceeded 10 years old. This included inboard or outboard of any sea valve (i.e. able or unable to be isolated from the sea) and was regardless of whether they were in storage in actual use. It was a good policy - probably saved many lives over the years. __________________ 1986 Sierra Classic Still Stock

10-17-2009, 07:00 AM	#4
leolkfrm Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: N.Y. Posts: 4,300	if you buy them for $200 or less and they look good by the above postings, why not! __________________ 4 wheels move the body 2 wheels move the soul B.W.A.I

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10-16-2009, 09:30 PM	#2
batty1214 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Vernal Utah Posts: 1,135	Look at the inside of the tire..... If the casing is in good condition, and it looks free of any cracks, splits, or anything that you would consider questionable, they will hold air....... Look in between the lugs, at the base of the tread....... If it has weather cracking or dry rot cracking, then the tires have a high possibility of throwing tread, or splitting when aired up and run down the highway for very far...... When it comes to tires, If it looks questionable or unsafe, then its just not worth it..... that is the motto of Goodyear, Bridgestone, and Micheline when they teach trainings to any tire installer..... anything from the 12-6 tires that are steer tires on tiny forklifts, to the giant earth mover tires that are 65/65-57............ they all go by the rule, if it looks questionable, is it worth a life? I just got done with training on all the tire ****, and will be gone again to goodyear plant in Topeka Kansas learing how to inspect their earthmover tires for signs of catastrophic failure that can happen.... whoo hoo.... 4 days of it......

10-17-2009, 07:35 AM	#5
bradrhale Senior Moderator Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 8,030	i had a set of the same exact tires. loved them and would continue to buy them if i had something they would fit on. many many miles out of them buggers. bought mine brand new for 200 bucks. but that was 6 or 7 years ago. the dollar aint near what it was worth back then.

10-17-2009, 07:37 AM	#6
scavanger Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 262	Light especially sunlight is a tire's biggest enemy. The darker the storage area the better for the tires.The brand-quality of the tire is also important. I just bought a set of Micheline tires for an old work car. They were put on in 2002 run for a very short time and the car sat in a garage after that. They look like new and the rubber is soft, not a crack or damage anywhere. I bought this set of tires for $80. I would think that high end Goodyear tires would have high quality. Like others have said , if you wear them fast enough and price is right go for it. Scav.

10-17-2009, 01:48 PM	#7
gmctrucks Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Houston,Texas Posts: 4,035	Check to see when there were actually made meaning what year some companies were unloading tires because of there age real cheap.

10-19-2009, 10:11 AM	#8
mwood Full Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 31	LOL dang fools i just got tire 411ed.. I will check the date on them bad boys fo sho, and probably every time i buy tires just for fun. and maybe use it as a pick up line! Any way yea the rubber still feels soft no cracks pleanty of tread stored in a garage and being in alaska its dark most of the year any way. So i think ill scoop em up, only a 100 bucks for em ill pick em up toady. thanks for the help!