Nascar and Toyota

[junior3382]

I decided to try this whole poll thing because I belive many people have an opinion on this. I don't think that Toyota should run in our american races. I mean after Bristol a couple weekends ago, the changes are quite appearant. I am not sure if this will work, but I wanna know, what do y'all think? Should Toyota stay and spice things up, or should our beloved race remain a battle between the big three? and why? I know it is not a truck poll, but it is still on peoples mind.

[bradrhale]

i disagree. if it was not for foreign made imports, you would not be using a computer right now. same thing with the oil that you are using in your trucks gas tank. do you own any china made knockoff tools?? i do. i dont get near as upset when someone steals them versus my MACs and Craftsmans. if we (US) cannot build a truck that is comparable in all aspects to foreign auto makers, then shame on us. there is many times the obesity over here than over there because we are alot lazier than others throughtout the world. and yes i am including myself.

[junior3382]

okay, that is now what i meant. I meant the long standing fued between Ford Dodge and Chevy...... I mean the Camry vs the Impala? I agree that with out some forign technology, life mat be harder, but lets think about this. The new Tundra with a semi-powerful V8 costs like 55,000 dollars. A new silverado with a bigger V8 is about 27,000. So where ius the real compitition. Now as far as NASCAR is concerned, where is Honda, Suzuki, or even Kia? I mean why just Toyota? It is a competition between the big three not the world, they already have races for that.

[mrjohnwayne]

This is a tuffy. Nascar has changed over the years. While a good majority of the fans are "redneck" the crowd is growing and nascar know's that. As far as the big 3 are concerned for years it was just ford and chevy. Dodge has only been back in it for a few years. I don't think it really matter's who runs anymore. People are still gonna have their favorite drivers and favorite cars. What is one more going to hurt. The cars are all the same anyways. The chassis are standard. The motors have to be built on a strict guideline. The only real difference is the driver's abilities and the skin on the car.

[72'CaminoKid]

doesnt seem to matter if yota is runnin in the cup series anyways... not like they're doing anything

[junior3382]

I think where I was going with this is there is a world class cup already, and even though the C6 Corvette is kicking *** there too, my point was that this is the American Stock Car Race not an international. You guys are right, everything is standard but whats the point? What is purpose? I don't care really, but the chevy makes strong V8's So does Ford and Dodge, but Toyota uses V6's as biggest in all their cars. They are known for Turbo Charged Power, not naturally asperated Poinies. But This is just my opinion. f they had a muscle car on the streets, then I could understand, but where? The Supra? Twin trubo I-6. I just think that the styling and changes are really going to affect the viewers. And as far as I am concerned this is a redneck sport. So is that changing too? Does anyone share my point of view?

[mudseeker]

time for my 2 cents.... toyota is more american than any of the big three. sure they are a forgien company but at least they have factorys over here. i live in michigan, the home of the automobile. there is a reason wyoming is coming here and setting up job fairs, because chevy and every one else tucked tail and ran overseas. when i graduated high school i tried for three years to get into G.M, my grandpa worked for them, my dad, my uncle and my brother, by time i was of age they had to many baby boomers that didn't want to retire layed off that anyone my age had no chance of getting in. heck, look at the company Comerica, the detroit tigers new stadium is named after them, they too are tucking tail and heading over seas soon. this country is so concerned about saving every penny they can that they are forcing their own companys to go over seas for cheaper labor. so think before you start blaming japan or china or toyota for stealing our jobs when we are the ones that forced everyone to go over seas in the first place. i know i have gotten way off topic here, but i think if it is made in our country it should be considered american. i guess what i am getting at is toyota is made in america, so it is american, which gives it a right to play with the "so called" american kids. also with the "cars of tommorow" there probably isn't a single toyota part on that car.

edit: i belive the tundra come with a v-8 option *goes to get new 4-wheel drive agazine*, yup 5.7 v-8 w/ 10,000 plus towing capabilities

[ikos10]

I think that Toyota should have a fair shot, but whats the issue? do you think that they are stealing something? I mean as long as the drivers are popular and they win, who cares what they are driving, right? I agree that More of Toyota is built here, but it is still and will always be, a Japanese truck. And you know the big three may have sent their stuff overseas, but they are still American. I think this is just a matter of opinion, and preference. And people will say what they will, but in the end, what can we do about it? We don't have any control over these companies.

but just for the record, my boy drives a chevy and wins in it! Has Toyota even finished in rakings? Just a point thats all.

[junior3382]

I can see your points here, and I have no real disagreements, but my whole issue, is the changes. We all know that the body changes and the areodynamic changes are from toyota, and why change that? It was compettative before, these guys fight hard to win as it is! I know we here at this web site cannot change the reality, but I think that Toyota is reaching for something that in the long run is going to bring the company down. With our president and his descisions, the weather acting all crazy and foreign companies taking a hold of American stock.... We should at least be able to hold on to one American tradition! How many people drink American beer any more? just as an example. Yes the world is getting smaller, but how small does it have to get before we decide to all join as one government? NASCAR is a pure American, blood pumping sport! Fast cars, hot girls, and mainly the fight to win! Why not keep it that way? why sare? Does any one out there know what I mean? or can even see my point?

[72'CaminoKid]

NASCAR is the on etryin to change things, not toyota. its a well known fact that for the past several years nascar has been trying to expand its fan base. toyota coming to nascar is not the only recent change we have seen.

Originally Posted by junior3382

NASCAR is a pure American, blood pumping sport! Fast cars, hot girls, and mainly the fight to win!

even that has changed. whens the last time you saw some1 get wrecked so some1 else would take the win. martin coof done it in daytona, sewart could have in atlanta, busch could have been spun in bristol. those are only this season. back in the day when nascar was what you say it is now. them guys would fight to win. spin you outta turn 4 and thake the checkers for themselves, and not care or feel bad for doing it. aslo, have you seen the new dale jr. commercials? how much does that appeal to the "typical" nascar fan base? thats nascar trying to bring black people into the races. NASCAR is a billion dollar industry, and the more people, IE toyota, involved the more money there is being made. NASCAR has come a long way from the days of "run what ya brung". is it a good or bad change? i guess that all up to each person to decide on his own.