Automaker Bailout? - Page 4

bradrhale · 11-23-2008, 05:06 PM

memory serves me right, that is exactly what was said.

93Sierra · 11-23-2008, 08:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 87c10slammer

to be completly honest what i think needs to happen is for the automakers to stop making highend luxury cars and just go back the the basics...

Sorry, I like my Lincolns.

Do they need to simplify? yes. But, luxury cars have been around just as long as regular ones.

FaselZ71 · 11-23-2008, 08:22 PM

Well lincoln is a subsidary of ford! Lincoln is still doing ok. Just like Pontiac is still doing ok. From what I understand! Don't hold me to it!

93Sierra · 11-23-2008, 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by FaselZ71

Well lincoln is a subsidary of ford! Lincoln is still doing ok. Just like Pontiac is still doing ok. From what I understand! Don't hold me to it!

Lincoln is not doing ok, lol They are nearly just in much trouble as the rest. The Town Car is pretty much about ot die off, the MKZ,MKS, etc look like copies of other cars, or other cars just as nice can be had for much less. As much as I hate saying this, when I look at Lincoln now, it's barely a passing glance. Only car I would ever buy is a Town Car. I own two, technically, although the Continental is the predecessor to it. And, once you own one, you'll never buy anything else.

I personally like FMC, and I have no problem with Chevy/GMC really, but....I don't know how to explain, it's complicated, lol.

FaselZ71 · 11-23-2008, 08:39 PM

Yeah I understand the complicated! I'm the same for chevy!! Like I said don't hold me to it. All I ever hear about are the BIG 3 and I know they are all owned by the BIG 3 but I never hear about them so I thought they where fine.

mudseeker · 11-23-2008, 09:09 PM

YouTube - CNN Auto Bailout Senate Hearings Big 3 CEOs Beg For Money

YouTube - The 'Big Three' testify on Capitol Hill
nardelli is doing a worse job at managing chrysler compared to how he managed home depot and that's saying a lot.

Derek1989 · 12-15-2008, 09:20 AM

yes it is horrible that the auto makers are not doing well but the world has changed in the last 30 years. GM and ford don't own the market anymore. They sell too many cars that are the same. An saturn ion is the same as a cobalt which is the same as a G5. They need to cut down their cars and dealerships. Toyota owns half the dealerships that GM has and they sell the same amount of cars. As for the health benefits, I agree it would be horrible to have to pay for everything yourself but I woulndt know what that is like. Canada has medicare which covers everything for you. They take a small percentage of tax from everyone and then you get free healthcare whenever you need it.

ThunderDawg09 · 12-15-2008, 02:46 PM

I vote yes!

leolkfrm · 12-15-2008, 07:11 PM

I guess it all depends what said of the fence you are on and who pays your pension and healthcare

mudseeker · 12-15-2008, 09:17 PM

i vote yes, but the gubberment said no.

View Poll Results: automaker bailout
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no	6	33.33%
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11-23-2008, 08:22 PM	#33
FaselZ71 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Northern Michigan Posts: 1,169	Well lincoln is a subsidary of ford! Lincoln is still doing ok. Just like Pontiac is still doing ok. From what I understand! Don't hold me to it! __________________ IT'S PEANUT BUTTER JELLY TIME!!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8MDNFaGfT4

11-23-2008, 08:39 PM	#35
FaselZ71 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Northern Michigan Posts: 1,169	Yeah I understand the complicated! I'm the same for chevy!! Like I said don't hold me to it. All I ever hear about are the BIG 3 and I know they are all owned by the BIG 3 but I never hear about them so I thought they where fine. __________________ IT'S PEANUT BUTTER JELLY TIME!!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8MDNFaGfT4

11-23-2008, 09:09 PM	#36
mudseeker Senior Moderator Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: michigan Posts: 6,317	YouTube - CNN Auto Bailout Senate Hearings Big 3 CEOs Beg For Money YouTube - The 'Big Three' testify on Capitol Hill nardelli is doing a worse job at managing chrysler compared to how he managed home depot and that's saying a lot. __________________ i'd rather be hunting

12-15-2008, 07:11 PM	#39
leolkfrm Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: N.Y. Posts: 4,225	I guess it all depends what said of the fence you are on and who pays your pension and healthcare __________________ 4 wheels move the body 2 wheels move the soul B.W.A.I

11-23-2008, 05:06 PM	#31
bradrhale Senior Moderator Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 7,831	memory serves me right, that is exactly what was said.

12-15-2008, 09:20 AM	#37
Derek1989 Full Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: NB, Canada Posts: 67	yes it is horrible that the auto makers are not doing well but the world has changed in the last 30 years. GM and ford don't own the market anymore. They sell too many cars that are the same. An saturn ion is the same as a cobalt which is the same as a G5. They need to cut down their cars and dealerships. Toyota owns half the dealerships that GM has and they sell the same amount of cars. As for the health benefits, I agree it would be horrible to have to pay for everything yourself but I woulndt know what that is like. Canada has medicare which covers everything for you. They take a small percentage of tax from everyone and then you get free healthcare whenever you need it.

12-15-2008, 02:46 PM	#38
ThunderDawg09 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 301	I vote yes!

12-15-2008, 09:17 PM	#40
mudseeker Senior Moderator Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: michigan Posts: 6,317	i vote yes, but the gubberment said no. __________________ i'd rather be hunting

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